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High-G Tuning
Posted in: Easy stuff for beginners,Guitar in general,Guitars,Mark Knopfler gear,MK guitar style and licks,Vintage guitars by Ingo on September 03, 2008
A rather strange tuning that seems to be part of any Mark Knopfler concert these days is the high-G tuning. Mark Knopfler owns a beautiful sunburst Telecaster Custom – probably a ’67 that was originally played by his brother David with Dire Straits, more on this guitar in a future post. These days (not in the past) this guitar seems to be dedicated to the high-g tuning.
So, what is it? In short: high-g simply means that the g-string is tuned up one octave, all other strings are standard tuning. For obvious reasons the g-string must be a rather thin gauge (I take a 008), otherwise the tension would break the string immediately.


If you look closely you can easily spot that thin g-string, pictures courtesy of Guy Fletcher
On stage, this guitar is played by keyboarder Guy Fletcher on the song ‘Wye Aye Man’, but it seems it was used on some studio recordings as well (besides Wye Aye Man, e.g. for the rhythm guitar on the song ‘Boom like that’, the one that comes in at 0:43 min and only hits each chord once, possibly on some more songs).
The nice thing about this tuning is that you don’t have to learn new ways to fret chords because the g-string is still tuned to g, only one octave higher, so everything remains as it is. You can fret each chord as you are used to, only the sound changes, a rather high note is added. Of course things go wrong as soon as you try to play lead with this tuning because the g-string is now the highest note.
Basically, the idea of this comes from the so-called Nashville tuning which is the tuning you get when you use only the octave strings of a 12-string set (the high e and b strings remain, all other strings are the thin octave strings, tuned one octave higher than the normal strings). This tuning is often used to add rhythm guitars with a rather “light” sound, less bass, but rich treble end.
Try it out, maybe on a spare guitar, it is a fresh sound and a lot of fun at almost no costs.
To finish, here is a video clip of ‘Boom like that’ with that sunburst Tele (played by Paul Brady, promo from Irish TV)
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This is very cool! I never knew that. I wish I had more guitars to experiment with crazy tuning ideas like this. Thanks for this post!
Comment by Jeff — 4. September 2008 @ 20:06
[...] the second one has black PUs. Left and right are the two red Fender Strats, far left the sunburst Tele Custom featured in the last [...]
Pingback by Mark Knopfler Guitar / More Knowledge about the guitar » Anything better than a red Schecter Strat? - Yes, two of them. — 7. September 2008 @ 17:29
Do you know what guitar Knopfler is playing in the video?
Comment by Philipp — 14. September 2008 @ 15:21
That’s a silvertone
Comment by Ingo — 14. September 2008 @ 15:42
[...] 2) his sunburst Telecaster Custom (the same that is today used for high G-tuning) [...]
Pingback by Mark Knopfler on Bob Dylan’s Slow Train Coming | Mark Knopfler Guitar / More Knowledge about the guitar — 5. November 2008 @ 17:51
I think there’s a little mistake about the fact that strumming chords on Boom like are played with that Tele.
According to the list that was published on MK news, this chords are played by RB on MK Strat (as we see on the DVD making of), a Tele is played by mark, but on the left (if memory serves) for arpeggios + that lick at the end of each verse.
Maybe this info on Mk news was not accurate. I remember a thing that surprised me : on Sucker row, Mark is only credited on acoustic while RB is on MKstrat. So that lead guitar at the end of the tune is RB ? I’ve read so many posts on mknews forum which says that this guitar remind the sound of Communique… Yes, but it’s not Mark, it’s Richard !
So I doubt about this list (even if it was given by Chuck Ainlay), maybe, it has some little mistakes. Another example : the guitar on Trawlerman is credited LP, but on tour 2005 (and also on Boothbay) Mark plays the 54, and I have a french magazine where he says (maybe mistake of translation ?) that it’s the 54 on this song.
So ?
Comment by Jean-François — 30. December 2008 @ 22:25
Mark plays the riff on the Silvertone I think, and it is doubled (possibly both by RB and MK). That rhythm guitar I mean plays only single chords, it is the one that comes in at 0:45.
Lead on Sucker Row seems to be MK, and Trawlerman sounds like the Les Paul to me.
Comment by Ingo — 30. December 2008 @ 22:59
Agree about Trawlerman. It sounds also LP to me. But strange that Mark said in an interview that it was the strat 54. That`s why I think things said in interviews are not always true. Mark plays in many sessions with so many gears; he can`t always remember all that stuff specifically. So, sometimes, interviews are not “reality”. We can only rely on what we see on live videos.
About Sucker row, it sound also Mark to me, but I have a doubt: why would Chuck Ainlay have forgotten to credit Mark on guitar ? And RB can sounds like Mark. Take for example Summer of love. If we haven`t seen the video where RB plays his Gretsch, who would have thought that this lead guitar was him or Mark? On another example, I have a doubt about the lead guitar on Stretching Out (Wag the dog soundtrack), it could be RB on Gretsch, while Mark plays rhythm on 335, why not?
About Boom like that :
On the list (which can be read here : MK newsïƒ releases ïƒ bottom of the page ïƒ Shangri-La ïƒ Guitars used on recording sessions) this is said :
MK rhy elec 1 Fender Telecaster through a Vox AC 15 ïƒ this the one that plays rhythm “arpeggios” + riff just after “boom..like that” (on left channel) Of course this Tele can`t be the high-G because of the riff, maybe the blonde one.
MK rhy elec 2 Silvertone through a Vox AC 15 ïƒ this the one that plays rhythm “arpeggios” (on right channel)
MK fills elec 58 Les Paul through a Comet head and Marshall cab with a Train Wreck Air Brake power soak ïƒ lead (center)
RB elec MK Signature Fender Stratocaster through a Vox AC 10 ïƒ (center) this is the one that plays only single chords, the one that comes in at 0:45. (As we see on the DVD. I know it`s only playback, but I think that they must have mimed what they have realy played on the record).
So I don`t think that the high G Tele is on this tune.
But you`re right; I agree that it`s played on Whye aye man. I`m sure because Mark confirmed it in an interview
Comment by Jean-François — 31. December 2008 @ 12:27
I vote for the sunburst Tele on BLT, because the blonde is tuned to (and probably esp set up for) open G, I think. And if the sunburst was already strung with a thin G, it would be easyer to change one string than to change all for that certain recording. It could even have been the red one, because that’s always had normal tuning aswk (but it’s of course not a Fender). I find it very likely that it’s recorded the way Jean-F says, Mark on tele, les paul and silvertone, and Richard chords on strat. But live it’s more like Ingo says, Mark on silvertone playing both the riff and the les paul solos, Richard on tele playing Mark’s tele parts from the album, and Guy on tele playing Richards strat chords. And why did Guy play Tele on that song and why did it have a high G? Because he had already played that guitar on Why Aye Man, since that song was the first in the set on that tour. So the guitar was already there. Morten
Comment by Morten — 4. January 2009 @ 06:59
I must admit that I am not sure about the sunburst Tele on BLT. I saw it being played by Paul Brady on that live TV promo and the sound on the recording matches the sound of the rhythm guitar on Wye aye man, that’s it.
Comment by Ingo — 4. January 2009 @ 10:38
Just a precision : what I mean by “the riff” is the lick played just after the words “boom…like that”
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so, live, this “riff” is played by Richard and not Mark.
What you mean by “the riff”, Morten, is the rhythm “arpeggios” I guess.
On this TV promo, the lick is played by the guy on the other Tele (Luke Brighty I guess ? and on what Tele, a blonde one, Mark’s one ?
Comment by Jean-François — 5. January 2009 @ 18:17
Hi Morten,
why do you say that the blonde Tele is open G ?
If memory serves, this guitar was used on :
- A night in summer long ago (night in London) : normal tuning, I guess
- Belle Star (ATRR tour): open tuning ?
- Setting me up (MK & friends 2002): although this song was open A in early days (as Ingo learned to us), it was played in standard tuning later
- Prairie wedding: normal tuning, I guess
am I wrong about tunings on this songs, or do you have any information that says this guitar was always open G ?
Comment by Jean-François — 6. January 2009 @ 19:20
The ’54 Tele is tuned to standard tuning, I don’t know of any exception.
Comment by Ingo — 6. January 2009 @ 19:26
so it could be THIS Tele on Boom like that…..;)
Comment by Jean-François — 6. January 2009 @ 21:47
Are you sure about that the blonde is in normal tuning? I haven’t studied this closely, but I was quite sure that when I saw MK playing Belle Star from row 2, it was in open tuning. And I seem to remember that Night in summer long ago was played on the National, so I just assumed that it was played in the same way when he used the blonde tele. But I’ve been wrong about these things before, so I probably am now too:-)
I just had a fast look at youtube, to find out anything about Guy’s guitar playing on BLT. And from what i saw, it was impossible to see what guitar he was playing (but it was a guitar:-)) But I think it sounds like it has high g tuning, so I still vote for the sunburst tele – the same as on why aye man. But in the studio, I don’t know. If the blonde normally is in normal tuning, it probably was that one. Well, it could be any guitar, it’s no problem to change strings and setup from one song to another.
Comment by Morten — 7. January 2009 @ 13:59
Checked Night in summer from Night In London, and it’s standard tuning. Same with prarie wedding (of course). But I’m not sure about All The Road Running. But you probably are?
Comment by Morten — 7. January 2009 @ 14:30
of course am I
I can’t see why ATRR would not be standadt tuning
Comment by Jean-François — 7. January 2009 @ 17:39
For no other reason than that I thought that the blond was in open tuning when MK played Belle Star, and I seem to recall that he played the same guitar on ATRR later in the show. All this seem to be proven wrong, now
Comment by Morten — 8. January 2009 @ 12:29
Hello Ingo
I was wondering if you had an idea about Mark’s overdriven tone. I don’t think he would be using a pedal, but if he is then I’d like to find out which one. I’m thinking he just overdrives the amp a tad to get a tougher sound, but if you know anything please let me know.
Comment by jude — 5. June 2009 @ 13:55
Mark’s overdrive tone comes from the amp. On Boom like that, however, he live used a Hot Cake pedal.
Comment by Ingo — 5. June 2009 @ 14:09
Thanks. I actually looked at some videos of the song and saw the pedal. Do you know if the amps he uses have seperate channels like the soldanos or he just sets them differently for each song that reguires overdrive. I’ve seen his amps before but I don’t know much about them.
Comment by jude — 6. June 2009 @ 02:03