Comments on: How to identify an original pre-CBS Fender Stratocaster body http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/ Ingo Raven's blog about the Mark Knopfler guitar style and electric guitar in general Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:02:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5899 Tim Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:46:50 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-5899 Fender Custom shop is not vintage spec at all. WHy people get fooled by this I dont know. The guys int he Customs shop are not very talented. If they were they'd be out on their own instead of pumping out THOUSANDS of gutiars for Fender. How hand made are the 50,000 custom shop guitar each year? Think it over. Take the tuners off your custom shop - they say made in Japan. So is the Trem, strap buttons, neckplate. B HEfner is one of the outsource places for necks. He gets paid about $100 each for them. Fender Custom shop is not vintage spec at all. WHy people get fooled by this I dont know. The guys int he Customs shop are not very talented. If they were they’d be out on their own instead of pumping out THOUSANDS of gutiars for Fender. How hand made are the 50,000 custom shop guitar each year? Think it over. Take the tuners off your custom shop – they say made in Japan. So is the Trem, strap buttons, neckplate. B HEfner is one of the outsource places for necks. He gets paid about $100 each for them.

]]> By: Fender Stratocaster http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-4568 Fender Stratocaster Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:44:10 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-4568 Very cool bit of information! I guess there are a lot of people claiming they have a pre CBS fender out there. Very cool bit of information! I guess there are a lot of people claiming they have a pre CBS fender out there.

]]> By: Ingo http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-4014 Ingo Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:32:11 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-4014 Right, the holes are also on the front, I should have stated this more clearly in the article. I did not know however that they were only on the back on non tremolo Strats, so thanks you for the info. And you are right, they disappeared in the 70ies so it is not really a feature exclusively for pre-CBS Strats. The idea was that a '74 Strat and e.g. a '64 Strat have different features anyway (kind of wood, contour body shaping, nitro laquer, ...) so the dowel holes (together with the right wood and shaping) are a good indicator for an old Fender body. Right, the holes are also on the front, I should have stated this more clearly in the article. I did not know however that they were only on the back on non tremolo Strats, so thanks you for the info.

And you are right, they disappeared in the 70ies so it is not really a feature exclusively for pre-CBS Strats. The idea was that a ’74 Strat and e.g. a ’64 Strat have different features anyway (kind of wood, contour body shaping, nitro laquer, …) so the dowel holes (together with the right wood and shaping) are a good indicator for an old Fender body.

]]> By: Jon http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-4011 Jon Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:56:54 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-4011 There are dowel holes on the front AND back if the guitar has a factory fitted tremelo. If it was a hardtail/non trem it has the holes on the BACK only. These holes were the clamping holes for the templates used with the overhead pin router. These holes were certainly still there until at least 1974. There will be dowel holes on all fender models because they were all routed on the same type of machine and therefore needed a template screwed onto the body for this process. There are dowel holes on the front AND back if the guitar has a factory fitted tremelo.
If it was a hardtail/non trem it has the holes on the BACK only. These holes were the clamping holes for the templates used with the overhead pin router. These holes were certainly still there until at least 1974. There will be dowel holes on all fender models because they were all routed on the same type of machine and therefore needed a template screwed onto the body for this process.

]]> By: Jeff - Anthony http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3815 Jeff - Anthony Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:47:14 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3815 Yes it's a Fender custom shop. They say it's ''built (from original tooling) as if bought new in its respective model year and just found today''. Yes it’s a Fender custom shop. They say it’s ”built (from original tooling) as if bought new in its respective model year and just found today”.

]]> By: Ingo http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3813 Ingo Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:38:37 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3813 Astonishing! Time machine is from the Custom Shop, right? Possibly they really had the original machine somewhere. And right, you can see them on both sides of the body. Astonishing! Time machine is from the Custom Shop, right? Possibly they really had the original machine somewhere. And right, you can see them on both sides of the body.

]]> By: Jeff - Anthony http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3811 Jeff - Anthony Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:32:02 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3811 Ans I can see the hole on the back and in front of the the body at the opposite side too. Ans I can see the hole on the back and in front of the the body at the opposite side too.

]]> By: Jeff - Anthony http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3810 Jeff - Anthony Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:28:55 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3810 Yes at the same potisions exactly. It is a time machine 1956 strat nos. It says it's made with the same tools and techniques as the original. Yes at the same potisions exactly. It is a time machine 1956 strat nos. It says it’s made with the same tools and techniques as the original.

]]> By: Ingo http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3809 Ingo Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3809 Not sure, I guess they switched to a more modern machine. Not sure, I guess they switched to a more modern machine.

]]> By: National Guitar Dude http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/2010/03/01/how-to-identify-an-original-pre-cbs-fender-stratocaster-body/comment-page-1/#comment-3805 National Guitar Dude Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:00:18 +0000 http://www.mk-guitar.com/blog/?p=1636#comment-3805 Why did Fender stop using this method to begin with? Why did Fender stop using this method to begin with?

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