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1. [...] and Juliet on that National Style-O (read style-”Oh”, the letter not the number, see this article for some detail pictures of this guitar), but there are no instructions or explanation. If you want [...]

   Pingback by Romeo and Juliet on National Style-O | Mark Knopfler Guitar / More Knowledge about the guitar — 25. October 2008 @ 19:12

2. As you said on your “old” DS guitar page, the national is used on every album, and you quote one song per album.
   But, before KTGC, there was only one album where this guitar was used on more than one song : the first DS album.

   Indeed, Mark plays bottleneck on it on Water of love, but he also play it on Wild west end : the rhythm part on left channel, while David plays strumming chords on the right channel. By the way, Mark played the national on BIA tour, while J. Sonni taking the lead.

   As far as I remember, Wild west end was one of the few songs where Mark “allowed” David to play live his rhythm part. The only over songs that I can check are Setting me up where David try to play a similar riff while Mark playing the solo, and on Southbound again, he also double Mark’s riff at the beginning.
   But apart this 3 songs, I can’t see others examples where David had to play rhythm parts originally played by Mark in studio. Most of the time, David played his own parts, while Mark combinated his rhythm and lead parts.

   e.g., on News, David could have played rhythm arpeggios, or on WDYTYG? he could also have played the acoustic intro and Mark ^laying only leads parts.

   As it said in M. Oldfield book’s, in the DS days, Mark was a bit “dictatorial” and I guess he allowed David to play “interesting” parts only if it was impossible to do another way, like on WWE.

   Comment by Jean-François — 26. August 2009 @ 20:03

3. Water of Love was probably not this National, but Mark’s other one, a Tricone from the late 20ies/early 30ies.

   I don’t think that Mark did not allow David to play certain parts, it was rather a combination of (a) that David could not play certain parts that required the MK style and (b) that it was naturally for Mark to play his rhythm / lead combination on stage and rehearsals, just for the studio recording he split it into two different tracks to have a better separation for a clear sound, and to have more control in the mix.

   Comment by Ingo — 26. August 2009 @ 20:51

4. Yes I agree with you about the MK style, and the “natural” thing for Mark, but you know what I mean when I say that Mark don’t “allow” the 2nd guitarists to play “his” own parts.
   E.g., on R&J, in studio it was obviously 2 differents parts, and differently composed. But on stage, he wanted to play both (and I understand this), so he added the synth parts to swapp the guitars in order to play the solo (the only time he did not this was in boothbay where RB played the solo)
   others examples : on skateway, it’s also 2 differents parts not composed in one way (like early period) but on stage, of course it was not “acceptable” that Mark played his rhythm style and let Hal take the lead.
   It’s not a critic, I would have not like that way !

   I know there are contrary examples : electric parts on PI and LOG, but not so many

   I think there was differents situations :
   - songs that were played on stage and rehearsals with rhythm / lead combination, and then split into 2 tracks in studio, as you said. But I think it was more the early period
   - songs that were composed with diffents parts played by Mark in studio, and then finding a combination of breaks / guitars changes on stage to play this differents parts by the same man. I think it’s more during the 80′s, or nowadays
   others examples : Boom like that, this is us… Richard played just parts to “fill” the songs, but Mark play the “interesting” parts, and on stage, he prefers don’t have parts that could be played (even if it’s not exactly the same) by Richard, than let him play “his” parts. I think that Silvertown blues was tried in Munich but not played because of this.
   On the latest records, apart from bouzoukis, Richard is here only to play strumming chords (e.g. boom like that), but not really “important” parts.
   I think it’s the same for Hal Lindes on LOG : if he was not there on the album, we all know it would sounds exactly the same.

   Well, it’s very difficult for me to explain what I mean, my english is to bad, but I guess you get the whole idea.

   Comment by Jean-Francois — 26. August 2009 @ 22:47

5. Just to add some things about this subject :

   if you look at the list of guitars/amps used on Get Lucky, provided by GF, you can see that all “important” and “fun to play” guitar parts are played by Mark.
   e.g. the rhythm part of Cleaning my gun, on the burn 12 strings (which is mimed by Richard on the video) is played by Mark. I think that Richard only play strummed chords that are not distinguely audible.

   I guess that if RB would not have play on this album, no one would have heard the difference. As it was for Hal Lindes on LOG, J.Sonni on BIA, or P.Palmer on OES.
   So I’ve always wonder why Mark has ever have a second guitarist in studio, he could have play all guitar parts alone, and have a rhythm guitarist for touring only .

   And the funny thing is the last time he decided to do this way (for KTGC), it’s the only album where there’s no iconic rhythm part in Mark’s style.
   And when he needs some parts in his style (like the rhythm on Cleaning my gun, which is in the kind of Boom like that), he plays in studio with a second guitarist who had nearly nothing to play ! (at least nothing “fun” to play)

   Well, just remarks as always

   Comment by Jean-Francois — 15. October 2009 @ 17:54

6. The dire straits model, all right!

   Comment by Mr. Bikinis — 2. March 2010 @ 21:02

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